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Патруль времени 2: Берлинское решение (2003) Online
Original Title :
Timecop: The Berlin Decision
Genre :
Creative Work / Action / Sci-Fi
Year :
2003
Directror :
Steve Boyum
Cast :
Jason Scott Lee,Thomas Ian Griffith,Mary Page Keller
Writer :
Gary Scott Thompson,Mike Richardson
Type :
Creative Work
Time :
1h 21min
Rating :
4.9/10

Twenty years after a set of events, the TEC (Time Enforcement Commission), the agency that makes sure that no one travels into the past without permission and changes history, is still ... See full summary

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Twenty years after a set of events, the TEC (Time Enforcement Commission), the agency that makes sure that no one travels into the past without permission and changes history, is still going strong. Now Brandon Miller a TEC operative, believes that they have a responsibility to change history hoping that the world will be better but Ryan Chan another Tec operative stops him but kills the woman he loves in the process. Two years later Miller escapes from prison and sets out to eliminate all TEC operatives by killing their ancestors. Eventually Ryan's the only one left and has to stop Miller before he gets him.
Cast overview, first billed only:
Jason Scott Lee Jason Scott Lee - Ryan Chan
Thomas Ian Griffith Thomas Ian Griffith - Brandon Miller
Mary Page Keller Mary Page Keller - Doc
John Beck John Beck - O'Rourke
Tava Smiley Tava Smiley - Tyler Jeffers
Josh Hammond Josh Hammond - Michael Travis
Tricia Barry Tricia Barry - Sasha Miller
Sam Ly Sam Ly - Young Ryan
Wen Yann Shih Wen Yann Shih - Cyndi Chan (Ryan's Mom)
Kenneth Choi Kenneth Choi - Professor Josh Chan
Eran Shine Eran Shine - SS Officer #1
Steve Tartalia Steve Tartalia - SS Officer #2
A.J. Buckley A.J. Buckley - Gate Guard
Toshi Toda Toshi Toda - Sushwel, Japanese Diplomat
Hans Schoeber Hans Schoeber - German Soldier


User reviews

Qag

Qag

I thought this film was pretty good, considering a sequel to a movie like Timecop tends to be destined as a flop. Jamie Scott Lee's performance is great as usual, portraying Anderson as someone trying his best to hold himself together.

Support performances were also above the standard you might expect and while the fight scenes are not spectacular, but they are certainly more than competent. The music grounds well with the film, especially at the climax of the last fight scene...

I found it confusing at one point as to what exactly what Miller (the antagonist) had been doing as Anderson burst back and forth through time trying to track him down, with each return highlighting the consequences of his actions. But these scenes moved a bit too fast for me to catch up, so had to watch a few times... maybe I'm a dumbass, or maybe the pace was too quick considering the subject!

Overall I found this film well paced and I liked the idea of the Society for Historical Authenticity being competition to the TEC. The moral aspects of time travel were touched on nicely enough to make you think, but not too much to tease you and leave you feeling unresolved in much of the theorising unlike Matrix Reloaded.

I rate this perhaps a little higher due to 1 - Jamie Scott Lee's great performance, and 2 - The fact films like these tend to be a whole world worse than the original!
Rarranere

Rarranere

I'm shocked. Until Timecop 2, I don't think I had ever seen a cheap, direct-to-video sequel that was actually good and possibly even better than its theatrical predecessor! And it's not just because of the action either - the best thing about the film is its story. It's handled with EXQUISITE pacing. On the one hand, the hero played by Jason Scott Lee is constantly jumping from time period to time period, so there's always some action or intrigue going on. But amazingly, at the same time, the filmmakers manage to acknowledge all of the great moral or ethical dilemmas that a time altering premise provides. It's thought-provoking and even a little emotional. Basically, the film is stuffed with great ideas, good acting, and decent action scenes.

The only way Timecop 2 suffers in comparison to the first is in the cinematography. Whereas the first film had fantastically moody photography, the sequel looks like an above average television film. It has a too "clean" look to it. It isn't horrible, but it's not very cinematic either. In terms of action, the film is exceptional at demonstrating fast, brutal Jeet Kune Do moves. I guess Jason Scott Lee has still been practicing since he did Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story all of those years ago.

Bottom-line, give Timecop 2 a try. It's far better than it has any right to be.
Buzatus

Buzatus

When I read the reviews I was expecting something really awful and cheap, like some of the latest Segal movies (sorry to those of you who may have liked them). Actually, the storyline is well developed, no false over-dramatizing or similar flaws you may have in a martial art/sci-fi sequel. The cast is good and it is shot very well, regardless of the low budget. And you don't have to compare it to Timecop 1, this one has value of its own. 8/10 for me.
Uste

Uste

Though it doesn't have the big budget of the original TIMECOP, this sequel makes up for that with a more enjoyable, more involving plot. It's also better at exploring the concept of a future where time travel is possible, with organizations set up to make sure that the past remains correct. There's also a blink-and-you'll-miss-it appearance by Hong Kong movie 'Gwailo' Steve (OPERATION CONDOR, LETHAL PANTHER) Tartalia as a Nazi soldier.
Feri

Feri

I thought that this Movie was very entertaining it kind of reminds you of a Back to the Future with the parents and the son.

Jason Scott Lee brought more than an action element to the movie he brought a personal touch and edge to it that most action films do not display.

The only thing is a lot of people still see him as the Bruce Lee character that he did on the movie "Dragon the Bruce Lee Story" and that is because he did so well in it.

If people can look past that and just watch the movie for what it is an action adventure you will definitely enjoy this movie.

And look forward to the next.
Tyler Is Not Here

Tyler Is Not Here

I caught this film on SciFi Channel at midnight one evening. After a good meal, sitting in a relaxing chair, you're liable to watch just about anything. Which is why I didn't immediately turn it off once I spotted the incredibly horrible visual effects at the beginning which just smacked of god-awful Direct-to-Video cinema. That being said, I was pleasantly surprised by the rest of the film.

The key to enjoying this film is to suspend disbelief. Pretend that you're looking at the German countryside, not some foothills in the LA area shot through a Sepia filter. Pretend that a Chinese man dressed in a business suit in the 1800s wouldn't arouse a lot of suspicion. Above all, pretend some of the more horrible special effects don't look as bad as they do. Once you've done that, you'll enjoy the film a lot more.

The performances by most of the cast are neither outstanding nor bad, save for Thomas Ian Griffith, who makes an incredibly good villain in this film. The plot of the film is almost secondary and unnecessary, chock full of plot holes and serving only as a backdrop against which to set fight scenes and excuses to change the era. But if you went into this movie expecting something scientifically sound, just stop; remember that this is the sequel to a Jean-Claude Van Damme movie.

Were a few things changed in this movie, specifically some of the horrid "special" effects, two or three of the more illogical and confusing points of the plot, the cheesy Direct-to-Video style overlays for the credits, and most importantly the unbearably long final 10 minutes of the film, it could have been worthy of a cinema release.

Final verdict: 5/10. It's worth watching if it happens to be on, or worth buying if you spy the DVD for cheap. Really cheap.
Cells

Cells

I loved Jason Scott Lee in this picture. The passion that he puts into his role is commendable. I loved the story and the moral conflicts that the main characters go through in being Time Cops. It was a pretty good role for the antagonist in this movie, too. The movie contained one of the longest epilogues I have ever seen, but they kept it entertaining so I didn't mind. Another really cool thing I personally loved is his use of Jeet Kun Do (Bruce Lee's fighting style). He used it in the movie Dragon and did so well with it. For those that know a little about his fighting style, and even for those who don't, it is pretty awesome to watch. In a future movie, I would love to see the characters spend more time with a particular historical event (They were in Berlin for a total of maybe 7 minutes in the beginning of the film). I would love to see another Time Cop movie, but only if Jason Scott Lee plays in it again! It's a Tivo keeper ;)
Dancing Lion

Dancing Lion

First, before watching this movie you should be aware that it is "about" time travel...therefore there is bound to be some inconsistencies and paradox problems; and yes...the film does "bump" into some of these rather clumsily. If you are a movie viewer that demands perfect logic and continuity or a real "time travel" buff you will have to "let it go" for this film. Yes, this movie is ABOUT "time travel" but it is NOT a time travel movie (it is an "Action" movie).

Secondly; this is a sequel, and thefore presumes some previous knowledge of the basic premise; what a "timecop's" purpose is and some of the primary "paradox" problems as to what would happen (to the present / future) if you changed the past. I can say that this movie does try to follow most of the "rules" of time travel; as outlined in the "Star Trek" TV shows (a well known "standard" in science fiction circles).

The movie starts out posing the question; "should Hitler be assassinated" before he has time to put events into motion & "what would then happen if he was?". The viewer gets to see what happens when someone wants to try; and the Timecops have to stop it from happening (or DO they?). Viewers may also want to know that the "Timecop" story, about cops that monitor consistency & prevent history from being altered; was a comic book before it was a movie.

True; "time travel" movies must address such issues in a consistent & believable manner and in this regard the movie is somewhat disappointing. However as an "action" movie (that makes you "think") it generally succeeds.

In my opinion it is far better than the first "Timecop" movie starring Jean-Claude Van Damme (1994). Given the comic book / Van Damme history; the target audience for this movie is going to be action / martial art movie fans.

Jason Scott Lee (as hotshot Timecop Ryan Chan) does very well given the script & direction. Viewers may need to remind themselves that Lee is NOT related to Bruce Lee although he did play him in the movie "Dragon, the Bruce Lee Story" (1993). For that movie Lee was trained in Bruce Lee's "Jeet Kune Do" style of martial arts. So not only does he physically look like Bruce Lee, he also fights using the same "moves". Seeing this, I believe the director recognized that he would be unable to avoid the reference; so he "uses" it consciously. In one fight scene there is deliberate homage paid to Bruce Lee. Timecop Ryan Chan (after getting hit in a fight) gets "really mad" and takes off his shirt; flexing his muscles in the famous "Enter the Dragon" style. When you see this scene you will know why Jason Lee was picked to play Bruce in "The Dragon",..., and why the director (and likely the actor) must accept & work with the inevitable references. For martial arts fans there are some fairly good (albeit short)examples of "Jeet Kune Do" style hand-work,trapping, and a couple of Jeet Kune Do style limb traps / breaks. The martial arts kicks are all "movie" style & less than crisp.

Thomas Ian Griffith is quite good in the supporting role (even in the fight scenes); however the movie watcher doesn't really see his character's motivation until the end of the movie. The movie's script is what you would expect given the "Timecop" movie history & story genre (somewhat in the "comic-book" style); although I have the impression that Lee did quite a good job fleshing out his lines. Overall, the movie gets a bit muddled because of all the different time periods involved (the "period" costumes are made necessary, however, to separate and enforce the different time lines)and it is possible that the editing contributes to the confusion. Many of the fight scenes appear to be chopped or cut short (while the special effects scenes, although not over-done, are a tad long). I imagine the editor of this movie had a hard time keeping a cohesive story line and "flow" given the topic(s). There are a lot of things going on in this movie all at once; the good guy "chasing" the bad guy through different time periods, shifting realities due to the changing of past events, and even characters changing or existing / not existing depending on which "reality" you are watching. Not only does the bad guy want to kill Lee's character, he also has the option of going back to almost any time period and kill his parents, thus ending the Hero's family line. If that is possible then, can the Timecop kill the bad guy given what has already happened? You'll have to watch! In a similar movie's plot line, "Jet Li's - The One" (2001 - one of my favorite time-travel movies) these issues and paradox' are better addressed (however I had to watch that movie 4 or 5 times to understand all the nuances).

Although you probably won't want to watch "Timecop: The Berlin Decision" again and again; if you liked "Jet Li's - The One" you will probably enjoy this movie as well.
spark

spark

I expected to see a sequel to this, Jean Claude Van Damme's best movie, years ago. When I saw the box to this video, I was suspicious at first. Now I recommend it to everyone who enjoyed the original. "Time Cop 2" is just as good. The story is even better.

Jason Scott Lee, who's been absent for some time now, plays Ryan Chan, a time cop who takes his job seriously when he's not flirting with the TEC female doctor. While chasing down a time criminal in WWII Germany, one of his fellow operatives, Miller (Thomas Ian Griffith) sees an opportunity to kill Hitler. Mindful of the ramifications of altering the past, Chan stops Miller. Miller's wife , another operative is killed during the melee. Insane with grief, Miller turns renegede and is intent on wiping out Chan's existence by time jumping and killing his ancestors.

The production value is excellent for a straight-to-video release and the fight action scenes are well-done (Lee and Griffith are well-trained martial artists who have a few genre movies under their belts).
WUNDERKIND

WUNDERKIND

Aside from its premise, "Timecop: The Berlin Directive" shares little in common with the Van Damme original. Like the Muscles from Brussels, Lee is a competent martial artist who performs fights with convincing pugnacity. Veteran TEC agent Ryan Chan (Jason Scott Lee of "Back to the Future 2") Lee fears he has been time jumping a few times too many. He complains about losing pieces of himself in those various eras. Chan isn't the only one concerned about the toll that too much time jumping is exerting on TEC agents. An exasperated female physician, Doc (Mary Page Keller of "The Negotiator"), complains vociferously that the agents aren't given enough turn around time. She argues, "We're suspending them in their own reality, and ripping them back and forth through time." She has evidence that cerebral hemorrhage has impaired one agent. Nevertheless, O'Rourke (John Beck) keeps sending his "go-to boy" Chan back into the breach. Villainous Brandon Miller (Thomas Ian Griffith of "Excessive Force") wants to change history out of a sense of moral duty. "I'm just saying if time travel is possible," Miller opines, "we have a moral obligation to right the wrongs of the past." Chan thwarts him early on in Berlin when Miller attempts to assassinate Adolf Hitler. He manages narrowly to save Hitler's life by knocking aside Miller and shooting Miller's wife Sasha as she is about to shoot Hitler. Miller winds up in prison, but this wily fiend manages to escape and put the status quo into real peril. Since "Timecop 2" lacks the beefy budget of its predecessor, "Slapshot 2" director Steve Boyum and "Furious and the Furious" scenarist Gary Scott Thompson have changed the focus ideas instead of big action. They advocate that time must remain the same. Interestingly enough, they introduce a new source of antagonism. The Society for Authenticity sends people back to observe the past so that we remember it correctly. This organization creates no end of danger, and Miller is the chief example. "Timecop 2" does some other things differently, too. They don't launch them the same way they did in the Van Damme epic. Instead of riding a rocket sled toward a dead end wall, they sit in a chair and particles bombard them. Despite its straight-to-video look, Boyum's thriller is still pretty entertaining. Boyum and Thompson lace the action with exposition straight out of the original movie. John Beck is suitably gruff as Chan's boss. Mind you, Boyum is no Peter Hyams, but he stages the action with a modicum of style.
Jonide

Jonide

This is a job well done with a small budget. The CGI made us almost queasy for a while; time travelling generates lots of SFX :)

Lots of kung-fu style action in a SF movie with a not too complex script: Save the present by travelling to the past and stop the bad guys from messing up the to be time line while dodging bullets and other weapons. The soundtrack is really cool and fits the movie.

Amusing if you are into kung fu and science fiction-if not don't watch it. We liked it 7/10
SkroN

SkroN

the movie it self is not much but although is a pleasure to watch it because it's that kind of relaxing movies. Still i recognize that i haven't seen the first part so it might be boring for the viewers of the complete series, i don't know that. Have you ever wondered if you have the power to go back in time knowing your past world history what would it be if you change it acccording to your good-right moral sistem, would it really be in for a better world? what if hitler would never existed, what if something have had worked in other way that you really knew but if someone had changed before you have ever been born, how can you know that it was the other way around, It's a puzzle allright but a nice one. Only they know the real truth, only they are allowed to travel through time to put history on the natural course, to be sure that what time sealed by its passing would stay the same. It's a lousy job because only them know if they failed or suceeded because they are the only ones that can see the history changes.The time cops are the ones you owe your present life because they defend it by defending the lives of your ancestors. My advice:see the movie cause it will be a pretty nice experience. And if after you saw it you will begin to wonder, let's be realistic:nobody can travel through time!:))
Perilanim

Perilanim

Well I just got finished watching the dvd. I was a fan of the first Timecop, and I thought the follow-up maintained the good action scenes and fairly interesting storyline that the first one possessed. There are also some nice effects throughout the movie which complement the movie well. For people who liked the original Timecop, I recommend that you at least rent the dvd.

On another note, I am glad to see Jason Scott Lee back in an action driven movie. Dragon was one of my all time favorite movies, such a fine movie, and I was expecting to see Jason star in alot more movies than he has been thus far. Hope to see more of him!

Thanks,

John
Zinnthi

Zinnthi

!!!WARNING MINOR SPOILERS!!!!!



This sequel to the hit 1994 film TIMECOP stars Jason Scott Lee as Ryan Chang, a Timecop whose job is to prevent criminals from traveling to past to alter the future. Unfortunately, criminal mastermind Branson is plotting to use the past as a weapon to gain control of the future. In a race against and through time, Chang must track down the deranged Branson in a chase that leads him as far back as the Wild West and Nazi Germany in order to save the future.
POFOD

POFOD

All I can say is that I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. Wonder how many they'll have time to churn out before Van Damme gets desperate enough to want to do one himself, gleefully shoving aside everything that came before and thus ruining the continuity of the series? (Not many, judging by Derailed.)

Hang on, though - continuity? Not one of Timecop 2's strong points, and at the end of the day the only reason Timecop 1 didn't contradict itself at every turn was because it kept the actual time travelling at a modest level. Timecop 2 ventures into Nazi Germany, the Wild West and various other places, ultimately making only the most halfhearted attempt to imagine (let alone visualise) the consequences of changes made to the timeflow. One of the characters mentions a mysterious war a couple of times. Someone else gets an eyepatch, then loses it again. Oooo! Change my pants.

Worse: it's boring. While small mercies are appreciated - such as Jason Scott Lee being given a new character rather than trying to be passed off in Van Damme's role (which wouldn't have surprised me) and being marginally more charismatic than the total nobody who starred in the TV series - they're not enough to save the film from inconsequentiality. Neither is Lee's hair, which remains rooted in the late 70s. You'd think he'd be able to do something about that at least, being a Timecop and everything.

Queuing up behind the leading man is the usual racially diverse but underused and pointless supporting cast, including a limp Thomas Ian Griffith as the baddie. Any and all attempts to make us sympathetic to Griffith's cause fail because of his fundamental Hollywood Baddieness compounding the gaping holes in the plot and reasoning: on one hand I suppose we should be grateful that the writers tried to ask 'meaningful' questions and stray from the standard good/evil action film templates, but on the other hand, if you can't do it properly then don't bother, because you'll end up with nowt but plot holes, mixed messages and viewers trying to stay awake just for the big fight at the end. Which isn't that good anyway, apart from the bit with the shirt. Tsk.
Kelerius

Kelerius

This is a good Science-Fiction movie with some karate moves. Probably Jean-Claude Van Damme might have been the right actor to play the second part of Timecop. I wish you a nice watch.
Zulurr

Zulurr

I don't know what else to say except, see this film! It's a wild and colorful sequel to the stiff and disappointing Van Damme vehicle of 1994. It's great to see such talents as Thomas Ian Griffith and Jason Scott Lee return to the action genre. And unlike the one dimensional characters of the first film, the main's are complex and compelling. The tag line is good too: If you had a choice, would you preserve the past to further the appreciation of the present or would you undo the wrongs done to change the future?

SEE IT!!!!!!
Ochach

Ochach

A lot better than the first actually. You know, if TEC actually did exist, they'd have to be guarding Hitler around the clock I'm sure, he'd be a pretty popular target for rogue time travelers. No wonder he was so paranoid... By the way I find it amusing that although Hitler was very obviously portrayed, all the characters never mention him by name, ever. Remnids me of that Justice League episode...

Anyway, for some odd reason time travel is actually more dangerous than it was in the first movie, with risks to cellualar stability and all, although only one person dies as a result of this. I can olny imagine this was supposed to make the time jumps more dramatic having that risk, but really seems kind of pointless to me.

Is unique in that the main antagonist is someone who wants to change history for the better rahter than just get short term gains from it like in the first. However how that philosophy ties into preventing the existance of every TEC agent is beyond me... all that seems more tying into avenging his wife's death than his orginal mission.

As the villain tries to prevent the existance of Chan, you see a pretty big logical flaw in his initial target... Now I suppose the chinese guy you see in 1881 Texas is more logically Chan's ancestor than Jason Anderson, who actually is. However, the only reason he knew to go back there is the genealogical database that named the time and place AND NAME of the ancestor, and I serouisly doubt one would think that chinese guy was someone named ANDERSON. If he though it was, he's an idiot, and if he didn't, than he killed somoene just for the heck of it, which kind of contradicts his altruistic intent of changing histroy for the better.

Another logical flaw is his jump to the dance hall in 1988... I seriously doubt the genealgical database specifically pointed out specifically when and where Chan's parents would be dancing... logically it would make more sense to attack them at their wedding, or their home, or something of that nature. It must be a very detailed database to point out their attendance at that dance... I don't know, maybe that's where they met or something, but seems a rather personal fact to be put into a database that's just supposed to be describing ancestry of TEC agents. Though watching Chan's reaction to seeing his parents dancing to 80's music is solid gold, still can;t stop laughing at that. That almost ranks up there with catching your parents having sex, it really weirds you out to see your parents that way.

The final fight just seems silly... I think Jason Scott Lee forgot he wasn't playing Bruce Lee for a few minutes. Hope he doesn't get typecast because of that movie.

Overall a fairly decent ride, movie does flow well.
Heraly

Heraly

I actually think first of all what happens when same matter and same place at same time thing was cool considering what happens to Douglas in this sequel.

Plus the movie is better than the first in some ways.

For instance what happens in this film to dangerous convicts such as the Frank Knight character who are brought back to trial is really cool.

Plus the film brings up interesting questions about time travel and yet has a lot of cool action and special effects as well.

I hope there is a Timecop 3 cause this one was really good.
Unde

Unde

Although this belated sequel to the 1994 Van Damme hit "Timecop" was made for the DVD market, it is quite ambitious; it tries to be a philosophical martial arts / sci-fi combo - everything but the kitchen sink. The eternal question about time travel and Hitler is not just posed - it is a central plot (and title) element! You could even argue that the "villain" of the film is not really a villain at all; he operates under the theory that we should use time travel to prevent tragedies that we know are going to happen, while the "hero" believes that the "original" course of History must be preserved at all costs, because of the unforeseeable consequences of messing with it. Sure, there are holes in the script (like someone remembering an alternate timeline before it even happens), but all the crazy, brain-twisting time-and-space-hopping does keep you on your toes. And in the midst of it all, Jason Scott Lee gets a few chances to unleash his pretty forceful martial artistry. In fact, the weakest part of the movie is the ending, where everything comes down to a gratuitous martial arts showdown between Lee and Thomas Ian Griffith (complete with gratuitous shirt-ripping by Lee - though part of the audience certainly won't mind!). **1/2 out of 4.
Doktilar

Doktilar

It could have been a little longer, though. The actors actually did a decent enough job. The director is normally a stunt coordinator, so it's got a kind of TV show quality eye to the performances... not X-Files or Homeland caliber, mind you. It's adequate, and that's probably how they were shooting. Accessible, clear, and not too many takes to get some really deep moment. The effects weren't terrible. And Andy frigg'n Gray did the music! That left me in shock at the end. Who's EVER done a cover of Piledriver?! Oh, this isn't a cover; it's an unreleased remix from Andy. Dude! Even as-is, a theatrical release wouldn't have been a bad idea. I think it would have made more money. This was before the move to digital distribution, so it was much more expensive back then, but I think people have a good enough memory of the original movie and the lead from the Jungle Book to have gone. The Berlin Decision is worth viewing on a pay site.
Peras

Peras

Time travel has always been my absolute favourite sci-fi sub-genre (with "post-apocalyptic" a close second) and so I actually shelled out my hard-earned cash last weekend to buy this movie.

I got round to watching it tonight and am writing this review with mixed feelings. The title "The Berlin Decision" and the cover blurb led me to believe that most of the story would involve the main protagonists travelling back in time to Nazi Germany, with that era being the focus of the film. I figured that would be the basis for a very interesting and exciting movie. Unfortunately though, the Nazi Germany part of the film takes up only a few minutes at the beginning of the film, and after that - just like in the Van Damme original "Timecop" - the characters spend most of their time in the movie's present (2025) and recent past (2002) ... in other words almost the present day now, which to me seriously reduces a movie's "time travel" feel (the same major beef that I had with the vastly over-rated "Quantum Leap" TV show).

I also thought that the whole thing was rather rushed - it tries to be too clever for its own good, and while it does throw up some interesting paradox questions, the plot moves at such a rapid pace that the viewer has little time to ponder them, and the whole thing just gets confusing and not a little messy in places. No attempt is made to explain or resolve any of the numerous paradoxes that arise, and in the end the best thing to do is just ignore them and try and get the best of the movie for what it is. Many potentially interesting questions arise that are left unanswered, such as what exactly was the "war" that resulted from the past being changed, and when Chan (the main character) arrives back in the alternate 2025 (in which his boss sports an eye patch and the female doctor a purple punk hairdo), what happens to his alternate self - the one who has presumably lived though the changed timeline? Is he somehow "displaced" by "our" Chan?? We never find out, and this fundamental question is simply ignored.

That said, this film does have a few positives. The time travel sequences back to the Old West and Nazi Germany are fairly interesting, if a little short. There's a fairly gruesome bit where one of the timecops arrives back in the lab fused together with his younger self and hideously deformed - a result of him having made physical contact with himself (in a continuity nod to the original "Timecop" movie, this was described as being a potential problem for time travellers in that film). And some of the martial arts sequences are pretty good, if you like that sort of thing.

Summary: Not great, but I've seen worse sequels and I'll probably dig this out again at some point and give it another go - maybe I've missed some of the subtleties.
Wenyost

Wenyost

This is pretty much the first Jason Scott Lee film I've seen. I say pretty much, because I have also seen Soldier, in which he plays the villain... but from what I've heard, it's not considered a Jason Scott Lee film. This, however, is. And if this is any indication of the quality of such films, I won't be seeing any of the others. Lee is basically passable as a martial arts artist... as the lead, he's awful. He gets in a fight with random no-name characters every few minutes of the film, probably because the script writer couldn't figure out how else to stretch out the film to the minimum required running time for a feature film. The villain is the only character with even a hint of personality, and aside from the fact that he's certifiably insane, he barely seems like a villain at all. The majority of the film is basically Lee chasing the villain through time... or maybe it's the other way around. I can't say for sure... and I definitely wouldn't watch it again to make sure. The effects are not completely horrible... but it's close. The title comes from the popular idea of using a time-machine to go and kill Hitler. Somehow, the film screws up that interesting idea as well. The plot is too complicated for its own good. The pacing is poor. I can't think of one positive thing to say about this film... I really can't. It's simply too formulaic and pointless. If only I had a time-machine, so I could go back and prevent this film from ever being made... no, never mind. I just hope as few fragile minds are exposed to this as possible. Listen to the negative reviewers. Avoid this turkey. I recommend this to fans of Lee, and no one else. If you're looking for a quality film... well, this isn't it. That's for sure. 1/10
Eseve

Eseve

In the future, men are capable of traveling in time. The basic rule is that nobody can change the past. The timecops make the surveillance, trying to avoid any change in the past. Ryan Chan (Jason Scott Lee) is one of the best agents. With this good premise, `Timecop: The Berlin Decision' could be a good movie. The problem is that, when dealing with time travel, the screenplay has to be very consistent. This story has so many flaws, that looks like a Suisse cheese. However, if the viewer does not think too much about the lack of coherence in the plot, this movie may be a reasonable entertainment. The Brazilian DVD does not provide any extra. My vote is five.

Title (Brazil): `Timecop 2 – O Guardião do Tempo' (`Timecop 2 – The Guardian of Time')
Ichalote

Ichalote

i like it. the best is that the actors are talking "german" in the original version. every time they open their mouth there is a great chance to fall off your chair laughing. if you are german :-)

the story was disregardable, the fighting scenes were a bit slow sometimes and the dialogues mostly b-movie. but it was fun watching. dont expect some philosophic stuff, its a comic-movie and it behaves this way.

gs Funny