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Original Title :
La commare secca
Genre :
Movie / Crime / Drama / Mystery
Year :
1962
Directror :
Bernardo Bertolucci
Cast :
Francesco Ruiu,Giancarlo De Rosa,Vincenzo Ciccora
Writer :
Pier Paolo Pasolini,Pier Paolo Pasolini
Type :
Movie
Time :
1h 28min
Rating :
6.9/10
La commare secca (1962) Online

Near the Tiber river, in a Roman park, a prostitute was killed. The police tracks down people that were inside the park during that night. They are questioned and have to explain why they were there. One of them is the killer.
Cast overview, first billed only:
Francesco Ruiu Francesco Ruiu - Canticchia
Giancarlo De Rosa Giancarlo De Rosa - Nino
Vincenzo Ciccora Vincenzo Ciccora - Mayor
Alfredo Leggi Alfredo Leggi - Bostelli
Gabriella Giorgelli Gabriella Giorgelli - Esperia
Santina Lisio Santina Lisio - Esperia's mother
Carlotta Barilli Carlotta Barilli - Serenella
Ada Peragostini Ada Peragostini - Maria
Clorinda Celani Clorinda Celani - Soraya
Allen Midgette Allen Midgette - Teodoro, the soldier
Renato Troiani Renato Troiani - Natalino
Wanda Rocci Wanda Rocci - Prostitute
Marisa Solinas Marisa Solinas - Bruna
Alvaro D'Ercole Alvaro D'Ercole - Francolicchio
Romano Labate Romano Labate - Pipito

Title translation: The Skinny Gossip.

This film is part of the Criterion Collection, spine #272.


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Ffan

Ffan

Bertolucci, at one time production assistant of "Accattone" (1961), here makes use of a Pasolini story and does it with that style will be characteristic of this director works. "La commare secca" is simply the death, the death who visits a roman prostitute using the violence of the emargination and disperation. The reconstruction of the facts, through probably inspector voice that interrogates the witnesses, is based on flashback and shows us some people on the border of that time society. Everyone is suspected but only one saw the killer. Very interesting debut by Bernardo Bertolucci, who is able to recreate the right atmosphere e make playing no professional actors letting express their spontaneity and simplicity.
Chuynopana

Chuynopana

Bertolucci, while a cinephile, had spent very little time on actual movie sets before making this film at age 21.

It's a Rashomon like exploration of the murder of a prostitute. We see various men being questioned by police in a stylized way – we never see the questioner, only the witness, sitting in a pool of harsh light. We hear the man begin to tell what he did or saw on the fateful day, while cutting to images of his actual experience, often at odds with what we hear him telling the police. By the end of the film we get a picture of what happened that night for each of these men and the woman who was killed. Beautifully photographed,, with a strong sense of composition, it's a pretty strong little film.

There are weak spots; the acting is variable at best, in a few cases cringe-inducingly over the top. Also, much of the dialogue was evidently post recorded, so even though the actors are Italians speaking Italian, their mouths are sometimes out of sync with their voices, and the dialogue often has a tinny artificial quality.

But quibbles aside, the film has a haunting quality that marks the start of a great film- maker's career, and makes this well worth seeing.
Winasana

Winasana

Even though for whatever strange reasons Bertolucci sliced three years from his age - it was originally claimed around the time of its release the Director was but 19 - La Commare Secca is a stunning debut for any film maker.

In a nutshell, then, here's the proposition and it's a grand one: Five suspects, (well, there is a "pair" of suspects in one instance) are questioned about a whore's murder. We all lie. So do they. The suspect's lying versions of events are depicted; reality as they would have it. All it happens, are guilty of something, as is everyone in this world, Bertolucci's point and almost never seized upon.

Frankly, this is also Bertolucci's best film. Throw out wholesale, such criticisms as: "not a bad try for a beginner," or, "better things were to follow," ...they weren't and they didn't ...

Economical use editing tricks as well as its compact run-time, mean that unlike the 'masterpieces,' The Spider's Stratagem, and especially, Before the Revolution, this film enjoys a continuity which - 60's (and his own) ethos aside - the masterpieces lacked. Though of course disjointed film-making was what was later intended in this director's canon, it hasn't aged well. It worked for Antonioni, (usually) and Fellini, (sometimes) and Italian cinema generally (with greatly uneven results), but it didn't work often, for our BB.

The performances - in some scenes by real street urchins, are superior. All ring true, particularly when the second crook tells his 'version' of events. As the camera gives the lie to his protestations of innocence, we see through the casual violence of his life, the essential truth: most crime is fueled by boredom, rather than bad breaks or genetic disposition. And while photorealistic acting in the hands of say- late Al Pacino, is dry as dust, in this director's hands, his absolutely true-to-life observations are small beauties.

The haunting soundtrack - nice cliché, right? actually haunts. It works perfectly. It fulfills the purpose of a cinematic score - it enhances the film - frequently raising the dramatic stakes all on its lonesome.

Particularly memorable, is that in this movie, background details are utilized for their own sake. Unlike Antonioni's Ecclise for example, where 'incidental' detail is of course the real foreground detail, Bertolucci's approach seems to be: While such details don't bear on the story, why not use them to best effect? Indeed, why not?

Thus, in some ways overshadowing all others, the teenage dance party and the "two boys two girls" scenes of innocence that precede it, are simply indescribably hypnotic. Seldom has the big screen been graced with such perfect realizations of adolescence. The facial expressions of the girls when the boys refuse to dance are not only peculiar to Europe - there are no comparable expressions on the faces of young America ... but, as the world becomes a common, drag-filled strip mall, such pulled faces may soon - like certain Italian dialects, (Milanese) be extinct.

My only beefs are for a scene in which an Italian boy takes to the Tiber to elude the police; the actual outcome of his swim is not made clear, indeed I had to see the thing twice to understand. And two ... when the villain, the murderer, is caught, it is without any twists - he was simply one of the suspects and he did it. There are no red herrings, no surprise innocence or guilt He DID it. Minor gripes.

This film, while regarded a poor sister to Bertolucci's alleged later masterpieces, is truly Before the Revolution - the title of his next film, a, yep, 'masterpiece' that isn't. Like so much of art generally, and unhappily film especially, cute proclivities in Commare Secca, all-to-soon became compulsive and dull, mannerisms.

A Director too often lauded and far too often castigated (Pauline Kael's insane rants against Tragedy of a Ridiculous Man) this film is a confident tour-de-force of very young film maker as virtuoso.

A spectacular must see.
Zbr

Zbr

Essentially a murder mystery with a RASHOMON-esque narrative structure involving a prostitute's death - THE GRIM REAPER makes for a supremely impressive debut for Bernardo Bertolucci. The ensuing investigation focuses on the unreliable testimonies of various bystanders through flashbacks, as they recollect their movements on the previous day. However, unlike RASHOMON there's very little contradiction in the suspects' accounts and are merely disjointed by time. The elaborate digressions into each suspect's personal life get tiresome after a while but Bertolucci never loses track of the event that brings all these characters together. Based on a story by Pier Paolo Pasolini and shot in chilling B&W — THE GRIM REAPER offers a fascinating glimpse into marginalized Rome of the 60s - thieves, petty mariners, pimps, prostitutes, homosexuals and assorted disgruntled folk living on fringes. It's primitive Bertolucci to be sure lacking the visual flamboyance and aesthetic vigour of his subsequent epics but when viewed through the neorealist prism: the intentional pseudo documentary—rough edged—slice of life approach, works wonderfully. For a neophyte, Bertolucci displays extraordinary maturity and uncanny command over the medium attested further by his ability to extract effective (if occasionally inconsistent) performances from virtual amateurs.
Lcena

Lcena

In the spirit of Rashomon, we have the idea of multiple versions of a tragedy, the beating death of a prostitute in Rome. Bertolucci fell into this directing opportunity and makes the most of it. While it has rough edges, it is an engaging tale. Those present at or near the murder scene are brought in for questioning. There are three young, aimless men who are petty thieves. There is a man who is almost expressionless. There is a strange looking soldier who seems utterly lost and without social skills. There is a man with a history who can be heard because he wears clogs and clicks on the cobblestones. There are others, but each offers his account of an evening in a park near where the murder was committed. Everything is subtle and visual and we can see the beginnings of some pretty impressive camera-eye technique. There are wonderful shots like the opening where the wind blows papers in the air off a bridge. It is seen from below and at first it looks like birds flying. The acting is quite good. A down side would be a lack of clues. All we have are eye-witness accounts which could contain lies. Nevertheless, this is a sound beginning.
Braswyn

Braswyn

La commare secca is an interesting film that students of Sixties cinema, particularly Italian, must see. It's neither a forgettable oddity as some say nor a small masterpiece as others do. It is an artifact of Italian cinema, an early example of Bertolucci, and an offshoot of Pasolini. Pasolini provided the "soggetto", the story-theme, and Bertolucci and Pasolini's collaborator and Roman dialect coach Sergio Citti wrote the screenplay, which Bertolucci, terrified and inexperienced at only 21, got so shoot because Pasolini had gone on to make Mamma Roma, but the producers demanded a "Pasolnian" film. (This and much more you'll get from Bertolucci's 2003 interview for the Criterion edition of this film.) But Bertolucci sought to shoot in a very fluid, kinetic style, camera always in motion, to detach his style from Pasolnii's "frontal" imagery influenced by the Tuscan Primitives. Bertolucci had not seen Kurosawa's Rashomon, but may have known of it; anyway everybody calls this a "Rashomon film," including Bertolucci in the interview. The film does go repeatedly over the same period of time (introduced by the start of a heavy rainstorm) as lived by a series of people who were in the park where the crime took place, the murder of a prostitute. They are all suspects or witnesses who are being questioned by an unseen cop at the police station, and what we see are their experiences which often ironically contradict what they have just claimed earlier. They're nearly all liars and thieves and lowlifes of one authentic Roman kind or another.

But here the similarity to Rashomon ends, and the weakness of Bertolucci's film begins. However interesting and in some cases haunting, creepy, and Pasolinian the episodes are, they are not different tellings of the crime story at all. They emerge as a series of shaggy dog stories, because they mostly take us nowhere in solving the crime or describing it. Hence, La commare secca is poorly constructed. The framework does not unify the episodes, nor do they draw us with increasing excitement as Rashomon does to a desire to understand what actually happened. And we don't see events retold differently. The events are mostly unrelated, though paths cross, as in many films, such as Kieslowski's A Short Film About Killing. Each episode is vivid and interesting in its own way. But they begin to seem so random it's easy to become impatient and bored. Things look up when we get to the soldier, a good-looking rustic with a goofy smile who begins to seem retarded, maybe dangerous. And they look up more with the two teenage boys with their "fiances," who become hysterical with guilt and fear, leading to tragedy. At this point the action seems haunting. But then the final sequences are obvious. We know who the killer is. We just don't know that this act too is connected to an attempted theft -- the connecting thread, perhaps, but not one that's made clear enough, being that everybody's getting in trouble in this park by trying to steal something.

As has been pointed out, some of the non-actors are good but some violently overact, and some of the post-dubbing works but some is shrill and/or out of synch. The fluid camera-work, which Bertolucci claims as his idea, is fun to watch. The film never runs out of kinetic steam. Obviously this is polished work with excellent cinematography by Giovanni Narzisi, editing by Nino Baragli, and music by Piero Piccioni and Carlo Rustichelli contributing to the outward sheen. But the screenplay is the weak point with its lack of a unifying conception. Though Bertolucci uses the word "thriller" in the interview, we never get the feeling till the end that we're on the verge of solving the crime, nor are the string of petty crimes and personal clashes suspenseful or exciting enough to be worthy of the term. La commare secca, despite its fluency and lively action, comes to seem an unsuccessful example of the Italian omnibus films of the Sixties -- one that, unlike the ones with Mastroianni and Loren, or Pasolini's early-Seventies trilogy from Bocaccio, Chaucer, and the 1001 Nights, doesn't quite hold together as a unit. I wonder what Pasolini himself would have done with it.

Anyway, two years later Bertolucci made the semi-autobiographical Before the Revolution, his real first film, emerging as an exciting young European intellectual filmmaker. Pauline Kael called his youth at this time "astonishing" and described this second film as "a sweepingly romantic movie about a young man's rebellion against bourgeois life and his disillusion with Communism." Then would come The Conformist, The Spider's Stratagem, Last Tango in Paris, and Bertolucci would be put on the map once and for all as an important filmmaker, who happily has now (2014) gotten back to work after a decade-long hiatus.
Uleran

Uleran

The mysterious murder of a prostitute happened near a park. The police are looking out for the truth and the murderer by the interrogation of the persons who were in the park that night.

"La Commare secca" is the first feature film directed by Bernardo Bertolucci and definitely marks the beginning of a wonderful career. It is the third film that I have seen of Bertolucci and for me is just another little gem of the Italian Cinema. The film begins with the classic interrogations of the authorities and we see how the things really happened and how different are the facts from the words that the suspects are giving to the authorities. The first three suspects are three very strange men and their routine of the day of the murder are strangely funny, basically because they are lying in their confessions. The first one said that he was looking out for a job but he actually was bothering and trying to steal the couples of lovers in the park. The second said that he was spending a lovely day with his girlfriend but he was really having many problems with the mother of the woman who support him and finally having problems with that woman too. The third is the funnier because he spend all the day flirting with all the women that he saw instead of going to the cinema as he confess. So the story of the film looks like it has the murder mystery just as a pretext to show "a day in the life" of common people because is true that the first three suspects were in that park but is also true that they weren't involve in the murder and is until the fourth person interrogated that we can relate something with the dead prostitute. The last suspects are like the main characters in all the film; they are a couple of teenage boys looking out for the love of a couple of girls. I said that they are the main characters because we can see more details of their day and the reason of their own crime and why only one is interrogated. Finally the mystery of the dead prostitute is solve but that wasn't the main point of the film because it was just a perfect pretext to can show the same day in different minds.

Well I really like this film that is just a great beginning of Bertolucci . It's easy to watch and easy to enjoy with a short story (88 minutes) so this is the most accessible film of Bertolucci that I have seen. The cast is great with actors and actress who only appear in this film, that marks the beginning but also the end of their acting career. The music is, like in the other two films that I have seen of BB, really important for the meaning of some sequences and I really like that. Here the last dance scene is memorable and was where the police arrest the murderer.

Conclusion: "La Commare secca" is a simple but great film. The fact that Pier Paolo Pasolini write the story is another pretext to check this Italian gem that is really important not only for the Italian Cinema history but for the entire Cinema history.
Stan

Stan

Bernardo Bertolucci's "La Commare secca", his directorial film debut, is wonderfully preserved in the Criterion DVD we had the occasion of watching recently. It shows a young man with great promise in a film that some contributors to IMDb like to compare with Kurasawa's "Rashomon", which is unfortunate. Bertolucci had been around the movie business as he had been behind the scenes in the Italian cinema serving his apprenticeship with the likes of Pier Paolo Passolini and other great masters. In this film, he got help from Passolini, who contributed to the screen play.

The beginning of the film has a Fellinesque look to it, as we are shown Parco Paolo, in Rome, with the flying debris that come to settle at the scene where a young prostitute is lying on the ground. The crisp black and white cinematography of Giovanni Narzisi enhances everything it focuses on with tremendous elegance, showing that Bertolucci knew his business and his camera angles, mostly shown in scenes in the park, are always effective. The musical score by Piero Piccione and Carlo Rustichelli enhances the film, adding another dimension. Bertolucci was well served by Nino Baragli's editing.

There are aspects of the film in which he recognize the input of Pier Paolo Passolini, as we see the homosexual who is cruising the park at night. In fact, most of the men in the film are predators, one way or another. The prostitute, who hardly utters a word in the movie until the end, is a symbol for the lost innocence the director and his collaborators sensed at the time the film was produced.

This film deserves a view by all fans of the Italian cinema because it marked the arrival on the scene of a revolutionary director whose career spans more than forty years.
Blacknight

Blacknight

Bertolucci's director debut has a quite distinctive Neo-Italian modus operandi, utilizing a multi- narrative structure of portraying different groups of people's idle life, who have been involved into a prostitute murder case. The raw-texture of the film is magnificently preserved and the primitive settings are bold enough to impose an intimate analysis upon various Italian people's mind-state at that particular time. At the age of 22, it was a great opportunity for Bertolucci to be granted the permission to work on his master Pasolini's script for his own career inception. Also it's a gutsy manoeuvre for Pasolini to trust his young disciple to fully excavate his talent, which is regretfully a rare case now in the cinema business.

During the park scenes, the film has a distinctively poignant tableaux scenery, but elsewhere the nonchalant idleness of each segmental piece is astonishingly fragmentary and unable to relate it to the core murder case in any rate, the film sacrifices its more audience arresting detective fodder to pursue a random characterization of Bertolucci's own mark although may at odds with his later more prestigious work.

The film's semblance of Akira Kurosawa's Rasho-Mon (1950) is just a bluff, apart from structure-wise design, the film seldom emits a certain commitment of story-telling, nevertheless it has its own charm once it suits to some specific cinema devotees' appetites, but with a horizontal parallel comparison with other 1960s elite peers, Bertolucci is still in his rookie mode and no one should demand too much for a 22-year-old novice to create a groundbreaking director debut, so after all, it is a thin-on-the-ground treasure and deserves a great thumb-up.
Steel balls

Steel balls

It feels,throughout this movie,the influence of Pasolini's mordant realism.This concept had its limitations (the listlessness towards an interior life highly differentiated,the uprearing of a messy and base life,etc.;also,the inherent,indispensable epic conventions, solutions and patterns),but also its obvious efficacy.(Later,Pasolini changed course and modus,heading towards a more elaborated aesthetics,both visually and intellectually;but then so did his pupil Bertolucci also.)

"La Commare ..." is Bertolucci's first film,released when the director was 21 years.It is a plain,articulated social anecdote,interested in depicting some characters:an unemployed bum;an oxygenated loan shark;a redneck soldier (a simpleton);an weirdo in sabots;two adolescents.The movie consists of five relations during the interrogatories following a mysterious crime.So,we have five different short incursions in the suspects' environments.This is done in an equable prosaic realistic note;the result is an objective,straight,efficacious cinema.

The subject belongs to Pasolini,and the script is Bertolucci's.
Atineda

Atineda

I bought this movie from Criterion thinking a film accepted by them couldn't lead me astray (only later did I learn Armgageddon and The Rock were part of their collection), and boy was I wrong.

This is really one of the most pointless films I've ever seen. It took a big risk trying with it's innovative non linear structure (ala Rashamon) and gambles like this are usually hit or miss; Rashamon was a hit, this was a miss.

The plot is quite similar to Rashamon in that it's told by four separate accounts of the same event, a murder of a prostitute by a soldier, a pimp and wife, a devious night club worker, and a punk kid who were all near the scene and interrogated as suspects. One of the chief problems though is it is missing characters who actually care or discuss what happened, making it hard for a viewer to relate to what he just saw.

In Rashamon the character's discussion at the beginning and end of the trial as it be validated the themes of that movie, not to mention the hollowed out building they sat in to avoid the rain was the chief visual metaphor of the film. There were constant cuts back to that structure throughout the length of the film.

The Grim Reaper really doesn't have that basis so the cinematography and editing just wander around aimlessly, and I use the word wander because the camera is quite free moving about in this film, apparently thats supposed to be one of the virtues of this film.

Overall the central problem of this film is that it's non linear structure and subjective accounts of the same event generally just don't work unless there are common themes and setting throughout or any way for the audience to relate to what just happened. Normally if a film tells a good linear story with beginning to end plot it doesn't have to be particularly meaningful; this film put itself at risk by trying to be innovative and suffered the consequence.
Samulkis

Samulkis

Not very solid, yet coherent work for a directorial debut. Better actors would probably have made a major difference in this Italian Rashomon. The story (Bertolucci and Pasolini) is about what's the truth and what is subjective perception. Who tells what story and why? More important: who hides what and why? Of course this film has nothing to do with the much more enthusiastic 'Rashomon' (Kurosawa, 1950) apart from the matter, but it may at least have been inspired by that masterpiece. If you like the subject you'll like the 'I saw the whole thing'-episode (1962!) from the series 'The Alfred Hitchcock Hour' too. Finally, this also slightly reminded me of 'Les Mistons' (Truffaut, 1957, short), probably because we are shown some street and environmental scenes of the place where a crime was committed.

Besides Pasolini (Salo, Medea) for the story, I think cinematographer Giovanni Narzisi did the most interesting work on this film. A worthy Bertolucci film and definitely worth seeing on the big screen.

8/10
Urllet

Urllet

Bernardo Bertolucci's debut film "The Grim Reaper" is based on a story by one of Italian cinema's greatest personalities-Pier Paolo Pasolini. However, his influence might be felt only in some scenes of the film including a detailed description of Roman lowlifes. In remaining parts of the film, one gets to see a good creation of atmosphere especially of nocturnal times which are crucial for steering the story forward. Although this film can be summarized as the tale of a theft which backfired, Bertolucci makes good use of his film's characters to reveal that it is through lies that one gets to ascertain the truth. The apparent comparisons with Akira Kurosawa's masterpiece "Rashomon" are unjustified as Bernardo Bertolucci's film appears more as a piece of 'investigative journalism' with a diligent cop determined to break the criminals through his incessant questioning. As a film which can be considered as a brutally honest example of incredible cruelty from a woman character, The Grim Reaper truthfully represents the mood of Rome in 1960s, a period where dance, love, music and sex flourished in abundance.
Malanim

Malanim

Bertolucci's La Commare Secca is something of a neo-realist Rashomon. It's neo-realistic aspects, however, are what define it more than the alternative perspectives. Here, Bertolucci isn't quite as concerned with the truth of the matter as he is with revealing the state of contemporary Italian society. I have to admit I was surprised that he reveals "whodunnit" at all.

After a prostitute is found beaten to death, police cross-examine all of the people who were in the nearby park for evidence. Each of their stories spans the trials and tribulations of day to day life in Italy. The investigators are never really shown because the investigation isn't important--the cross-examination of the characters is. We're meant to look at them, not at the details of the murder.

I think the best part is how Bertolucci changes perspective with the camera as well as the characters. Each characters' story is told in subtly different styles; plus, the reveal of the truth is signified with three sudden, striking, static shots of the unfolding narrative from a distance, showing that no longer are we bound to any one perspective but to a more objective one. Better than an overhead perspective to signify God: that would have been too kitsch.

--PolarisDiB
Hono

Hono

Rashamon style set in the slums of Italy. Each suspect tells a tale that intertwines around each other's life before, during and after the death of a prostitute. Has a lot to comment on the social status of poverty in Italy.